Can we save these implants after CBCT shows bone graft failure?

I have a patient who had 3 implants installed 4 months prior. Bone grafts were placed around each implant. The recent CBCT shows that all 3 bone grafts have failed. The patient is asymptomatic and the implants are not mobile. I would like to retain these implants. Would it be advisable to lay a full thickness flap and place another bone graft? Or would it be better to explant the implants, re-graft the sites and then install the implants after the grafts osseointegrate?


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18 Comments on Can we save these implants after CBCT shows bone graft failure?

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Peter Fairbairn
12/2/2013
The angulation and position of the implants was not optimal to engage a more palatal aspect of the socket . You did not mention the type of graft etc and the graft will not ossseo-integrated as such . Scans can be deceptive as well , still here there appear to be bigger issues . Peter
CRS
12/2/2013
The angulation as stated above is poor and not in the alveolar housing.Remove and graft first. Also was the patient wearing a denture which helped the resorptive process? This would be a nice case for sonic weld and prgf. Place some minis to prevent the prosthesis form moving or make it flange less . This is now a complex case with a few bridges burned.
Nami Ben Otman
12/3/2013
Remove all and simultaneously place implant in 3D direction and augment ridge labially
gary l. henkel dds magd
12/3/2013
i know it is not easy to here, but the above gentleman have advised you wisely. those fixtures are doomed, and if left for any period of time will cause more bone loss. cut your losses now, get them out, do proper ridge development, and then place them at improved angulation. you may want to consider doing it guided. best of luck.
Zhen
12/3/2013
Refer to an oral surgeon for removal, bone graft and after four months healing, new implants. Stick with your core competancy.
Dr G
12/3/2013
3 D imaging can be misleading. Based on these images you should be able to palpate the apex of one of these implants with your index finger. Can you either feel this implant or see the grey color through the vestibular mucosa?
michaelwjohnson dds, ms
12/3/2013
these are placed in the labial concavity and need to be removed and reoriented. A vertical orientation of an implant can be a problem especially if we try to screw retain an anterior restoration. To get the access hole in the cingulum implants often are placed like this... non ideally. Ideally implants need to be placed in the alveolus which, in the anterior maxilla, flares facially. Therefore, for best results, make sure the implant is in bone, handle angle corrections with a custom abutment then cement the crown.
Zahir khokhar
12/3/2013
Unfortunately the implants are outside the ridge and should be removed. It happens!
Chan ka ho abraham
12/3/2013
No hope. 3 Implants should be removed and regraft to save the rest of the bone. retention of soft tissue covering the graft is another problem.
coryc
12/4/2013
my question is: what was the end result going to be here? I know these are tomographs but I see no other teeth in the maxilla. the implants appear to be placed at 7, 8, and 10 but what was the final prosthesis supposed to be?
CRS
12/4/2013
Excellent question, the mandibular teeth appear to be in a class III relationship, there is something radio opaque on the ridge and the natural teeth are banging up against the implants. If this is a full denture then locators at 3,6,11,14 positions or canine molar bars bilaterally. I don 't get the lack of treatment planning and case analysis which makes these cases work and is the logical endpoint. When the oral surgery or implants fail then it is an out of body experience with no ownership of poor planning or poor technique. The secret is a good prosthetic plan, understanding the biology if oral and maxillofacial surgical principles, judgement, skill and knowing ones limitations. Throw in medical management which is learned in a true hospital residency not a dental grad program or weekend course. Then we get " it happens " or that's how we learn. The key is great prosthetic work up, this core is taught in dental school and good restorations! I can do the best surgery in the world but I will be set up to fail with a poor prosthetic plan, it's the real deal and as dentists we are uniquely trained in this.I'm sorry this is harsh but I am tired of telling the dentist to do his very important job while allowing me to do mine for th benefit of the patient who is the one that ultimately suffers. Dentistry is hard and unpredictable enough just because the market dictates a gadget, technique or course judgement can't be thrown out the window. I always respect and admire well done restorations that last it is talent and a gift to be respected and appreciated some if these posted cases are just ridiculous . Sorry I made you read this!
PW
12/4/2013
So glad that was said. Even if the implants WERE placed correctly, the facial trajectory of the bone along with the location and number of implants chosen would make the final prosthesis difficult if this is an edentulous maxilla.
CRS
12/4/2013
Thanks it is very easy to get caught up in trying to be an oral surgeon which I still don't get since dental implants are complex enough. But one must remember the most important thing which most dentists already have, treatment planning and restorative skills. This is an important gift and the patient trusts us to do the best for them. There are a lot of things that can go wrong as these new implantologists will find out when the implants start failing at 5-8years out. Unfortunately this creates more business for me which could hav been avoided at the get go. It is not wise to cut corners and not have a good treatment plan. A good restorative dentist who sees the big picture is worth his weight in gold! I respect and applaud wise restorative dentists they are the key for patient care and I have my referring guys backs!
Alejandro Berg
12/5/2013
Why would you even try to save them, Treat every patient as you would your kid and you wont go wrong. Loose them and start over best of luck
greg steiner
12/8/2013
Allografts and xenografts or any granular graft material placed over implant surfaces never results in integration in the area of the graft. These graft materials are used around implants just to make the post op radiograph look good. So in your future cases understand that the patient's bone will provide the complete support for the implant and if you are using these graft materials they are just filling space. Greg Steiner Steiner Laboratories
Mike
12/15/2013
unfortunately lack of 3d planning get them out, graft. fabricate surgical guide and make it happen.
Tony Collins AM
12/16/2013
Why do so many posters say " the patient had x implants placed"? Do they mean "I placed..." ? or someone else placed..."? This is an important distinction - if you placed them, own up. If someone else placed them, send the patient back to them. In this case, whoever placed the implants has made some crucial mistakes in treatment planning. What are these implants to be used for - surely not a stand-alone bridge in what appears to be an edentulous maxilla? If they are for overdenture retention, then 3 is not generally considered sufficient in the maxilla. Think also about basic physics and the leverage forces on the implants (if they were remotely able to be restored) for overdenture retention. Regards grafting around implants placed outside the bony envelope - this is wishful thinking with conventional grafting techniques (may be possible with sonic welding but PLEASE PLEASE get some training before attempting this) I suggest removal of the implants asap and a thorough reassessment of the patient's needs and careful considerations of how to satisfy them - may include some sinus grafting to achieve posterior placement, in order to satisfy basic physical principles. I suggest you consult with a prosthodontic colleague on this. Remember, no matter how much you try/hope/wish, you cannot defy the Laws of nature - get into the habit of OVER engineering your cases, and do not try to place implants outside the bony envelope. Seek help in treatment planning and own up to your inexperience - remember , we have all been there. Good luck.
E
1/27/2014
Regarding bone grafting, I notice with bone grafting for height, resorption can still occur after proper healing time is observed. I read in some of the previous posts that some colleaguse suggest multiple bone grafting to build back missing buccal wall and lingual wall. Any feedback regarding its success and failure of such undertakings

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