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Print This PostJeffrey, a dentist, asks:
Do any of you have information about new products (clones) in the piezo surgery field?
I’ve heard that some clinician in Paris has had some good results with his piezo unit. Beautiful nerve repositions and amazingly clean chin and ramus grafts. Do these units perform as well as the original? What other comments can I get about piezo surgery? Where can I get more information? Thanks.
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I have been using this acteon piezotome unit and it performs better than piezosurgery unit from mectron and I have already done some sinus lifts and crest split and ridge splitsIpost mandible),Chin grafts ,ramus graft etc. with ease and good results.
I have the piezosurgery unit, and it works GREAT! One of the best things I have ever used and bought.
Ihave gathered a lot of experience with the Mectron Piezosurgery unit in various indications.I suggest taking a hands on course.
We know you give the course Dr. Mazor.
Please don’t advertise.
be more detail on the trechnique or advantages
thank you
A lot of clones are actually invading the market: to my knowledge, there are the Acteon, the BioSaf and the Esacrome models; i tested the two latter. Both are very powerful and have been subjected to many improvements respect to the first model by Mectron, whose problems were mainly overheating of the hand piece, loose of cutting power in D1 -D2 bone and some frequent error alarms.
Hope this helps.
Do you have more info on Biosaf and esacrome, or are they models from Acteon ? I’ve seen the Acteon piezotome and it looks just like the mectron model. I’m not familar with biosaf and esacrome–can’t find any info on the web on those. Can you help ? Mectron’s pricing is simply outrageous IMHO for the unit and the attachments
I have used both the Mectron and Acteon units and ended up buying the Acteon unit at the last AAP meeting. It works great and doesn’t have the downfalls of the Mectron unit. With the Mectron unit, if you touch the bone before steppin on the pedal it stalls out and you have to remove the tip and replace it, which is an unneccessary pain. This doesn’t happen with the Acteon and it works great on sinus grafts, osseous surgery and any bone cutting. It costs a lot less and you get two handpieces. I’m not familiar with the other two units mentioned.
The Piezotome by Satelec(Acteon) does not get stuck in the bone because of a patented technology that creates a “cruise control” so that when the tip hits bone it does not bog down. It will run, depending on the set level from 10 um to 60 um. So basically if you have it at the highest level for dense bone at 60 um and you apply it to the bone it will remain at 60 um. No other competitors have this technology and thus they may say theirs runs at 100 um. However, once applied to a load it will drop to 40 um causing the tip to stop motion. This is the same technology used in its piezo scalers which allows it to remove decay and composite fillings along with tenacious cal.
The Piezotome will reach a max temperature of 32 degrees C. Mectron will hit over 70 degrees C. increasing risk of necrosis.
Piezotome also has hands-free foot pedals which can adjust everything on the unit not to mention it has the piezo scaler handpiece included. Cost is around $10,000. Hope this helps.
The Acteon you’ll have to buy an irrigation kit every case at about 100 bucks. That adds up real quick. IMHO there are all way overpriced.
That is absolutely rediculous Sinjin. Disposible irrigation lines are $15 per surgery. Not 100 bucks. Small price to have sterile lines. With competitors, if there is a problem with irrigation, the entire handpiece has to be sent to company. That is expensive.
I’m stunned that anyone would prefer the Acteon unit after having used both in my office. The tip designed to cut bone around a tooth as a periotome is borderline useless for the Acteon. The inserts appear to be attempted clones for the Mectron but they are more expensive than the titanium nitride coated ones from mectron. Some of the inserts notably the ridge split ones are too wide at the top compared to the Mectron. The unit does run cooler…but cuts appreciably slower. When used properly, the ominous threats of necrosis don’t seem to be realistic. Milk is dangerous too, if you fill an 800 gallon drum with it and drop it on someone’s head. There are also inserts for implant site prep and based on the data it looks promising. Those inserts are patented and I believe there is pending litigation against Satalac for patent infringement. I have no idea where that will put things. Cost-wise the Satalac ends up way more expensive due to insert cost and disposable tubing. I have two mectron units now and am returning the Satalac.
I have experience with all three units currently available (because I am a techno geek) and will give you my unbiased opinion. The ACTEON Piezotome unit is OK. It does not have the power “under load” that the Mectron and/or UBS units have, but it is adequate enough to do sinus lift procedure and other “light” applications. The insert tips are more expensive than the other two brands, and they snap pretty easily. As for any serious bone surgery application, it is not good. The Mectron (Piezosurgery) & UBS units have much more power. As for the Mectron unit, the “Error 5″ message, which happens when the insert tip does not tune correctly, is a hassle, but it does guarantee that the end user will not cause any necrosis during the procedure since it will not allow a dull insert tip to be used. However, the company does not offer any written guarantees if an insert tip fails even if it is new. You have to call and hassle them for a return, but sometimes they will give you a replacement. When the Mectron unit works, there is nothing better! The UBS is a good too and offers more power than anything currently available, but it seems to be more power than function. The UBS inserts are made of titanium and if they last longer than the other two brands (which I don’t know yet) then I would recommend this brand over the other two. However, it is too soon to tell. I will keep you posted.
. EMS and NSK’s units are “me too clones” that are not yet available due to FDA 510K approval, but the “word on the street” from my European Friends (who have these devices)
I have used a few of the piezo units, and I don’t think I would call them “clones.” They are devices that work similarly to produce a similar outcome. The units on the market are no more clones of one another than you could say Chevy, Ford, Dodge OR Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz are clones of each other.
My overall impression is that while all of them work and are good to have, they each have their characteristic quirks and weaknesses.
Furthermore, at this stage of the game, they are very expensive instruments and it is too early to say if the piezo devices on the market are more like Chevys, Fords, and Dodges –OR– Audis, BMWs and Mercedes-Benzes. But, in my opinion, in 2008, they are more like the former.
Dear all I need a course in piezosurgery, I live in munich Germany.
I was among the first to use the first piezosurgery unit by Mectron from 2003 for bone surgery in various indications (including orthognathic surgery).There was the problem of insert breakoff after a few uses when used to separate mandibular bone or dense bone in the anterior maxilla.
Ever since, I have used other units like Piezotome (not better) and recently Variosurg.The latter is quite satisfiying in strength and I have used it for alveolar bone surgery of BRONJ;else, it seems like the only one with integrated light for more precision. It may be this one that I’ll buy for my clinic but wouldn’t there be other machnines to test before concluding? Please leave your experiences and comments.
I have the NSK unit. Does anyone have experience with this unit. What are the best settings for type 1,2,3,4,bone. What are the water flow setting that you use.and any general comments that would be helpful thank SHK
hi there any one heard of pezotome??? some kind of clone any idea wich company?? website??
Any comments on the OSADA piezo unit?
well the acteon piezotome is the best so far for bone grafting and sinus lift. it has the intralift kit for a new hydrodynamic closed sinus lift technique which give very safe great sinus lifting results.
i actually attended a workshop in the ICOI conference in Cairo - Egypt and couldn’t resist is.
it’s perfect.
hope that was helpful
hi, im an undergraduate student. Wanting to know if you can actually cut the holes for implants using piezosurgery, as opposed to using rotary drills?
I understand that there are ultrasonic chisels out there that allow bone cutting, but im unsure whether one can cut the hole in which the implant is placed using ultrasonics?
thanks
Dear R. Hughes:
The Osada piezo Unit is a very precise piezo but better indicated minor surgery, demonstrations are performed on egg shells without actually perforating the inner membrane but it is very dificult to cut through hard blocks of bone. For Sinus lift surgery it does come in handy but for other aplications it may lack in power. LED Light incorporated into hand piece and precise cutting tips.
Dear dp:
Piezosurgery II and Esacrom have these tips for implant site preparation, the diameters and laser marked lengths are singular and do not coincide with all the shapes and sizes of the implants available on the market.
Has anyone heard of the ’surgystar’ by DMETEC. I tried to get some information from their company. I emailed some questions - the guy on the other end got upset with my line of questioning - how can I pay, what if I have a problem with the machine, who’ll fix it.
Has anyone heard of this company. They won’t send the unit until the money is transfered to their account.
HI DP
THE MECTRON UNIT HAS ULTRASONIC TIPS SPECIALLY FOR IMPLANT SITE PREPARATION. I FIND IT QUITE USEFULL WHEN CLOSE TO NEUROVASC BUNDLE OR ANTRUM.
ALSO NICE TO USE FOR IMLANT SITES WHEN COMBINING WITH A RIDGE SPLIT OR SINUS ELEVATION. I HAVE ONLY HAD THE UNIT A FEW MONTHS SO POSSIBLY I HAVE ONLY PLACED FIFTY TO SIXTY IMPLANTS IN THIS MANOR. SO FAR NO PROBLEMS BUT IT IS BIT MORE TIME CONSUMING THAN THE DRILL TECHNIQUE.
IT IS A USEFULL OPTION TO HAVE BUT DOES NOT REPLACE CONVENTIONAL TECHNIQUES IN MY PRACTICE SO FAR. I ALSO OCCASIONALLY START WITH THE PIEZO TIPS IND FINISH OFF WITH A DRILL.
PAUL
PAUL
I bought the SurgyStar from Dmetec.
They have a very interesting price, and the device seems okay.So , this atracted me . The device is very comparable with the Mectron, NSK,..
They have a range of tips, and the tips are compatible with Mectron;
Produced by a Korean (present on IDS ,Köln Germany)company, specialised in piezo and scaler units.
Communication via Mr. Kay, quick and correct.
They prepare a supply base in Germany.
JP
Dear All,
ACTEON recently came out with AUTOCLAVABLE Irrigation lines for their PIEZOTOME. They can be used up to 100 times, all you need to do is replace the perforator piece. One irrigation line w/ 10 perforators costs about $130… this keeps costs down considerably! Thanks ACTEON for filling the need.
Hope this helps.
i intend to buy a piezourgery unit
which would you recommend
mectron or acteon?
We use quite a lot mectron at our dental school and I use it also for 3 years in my clinic.
Dear Sir,
I’m Kay Lee who is mentioned by above some Dr.s
I’m very surprised to see my name on this site.
I’m not gonna advertise Surgystar here
but I’d like to mention something.
First, dear Dr. Denzil, Advance Payment is company regulation and we are trustworthy company and make only quality products. If you pay in advance, you will not regret with our quality ^^.
Second, thanks to JP, lots of ultrasonic device is coming into market but quality product is rare. We tested many device in our lab. I can make sure that about 5 company’s devices have good quality. My advice is that pls. do not rely on the brand name. Brand name makes price of device higher.
My advice would be to see which companies have real research and can prove their claims. To my knowledge, of the 80+ articles, almost every one of them are on the Mectron/Piezosurgery device.
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