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Is this implant restorable?

Last Updated: Sep 04, 2014

Patient presented with implant placed at another office and wanted me to restore it. It appears to have not been placed deep enough. I am not sure what implant system this is but I am of the opinion that this implant is not restorable. Do you think it will have to be removed and redone or does anyone have any other suggestions?



39 Comments on Is this implant restorable?

marc couture

09/04/2014

If it is freshly placed, I would simply remove and prepare a deeper osteotomy and insert a new one. Provided that there is safe distance from the IAN and that it is not perfing to the lingual.Easy to fix now . more complicated after you made a crown.

Yaron Miller

09/04/2014

Implant was placed 6-7 weeks ago according to the patient

peter Fairbairn

09/05/2014

Take it out it will be easier than other solutions , will integrated already ( Sasaki et al Jomi 2008 ) so will need Neobiotech to reverse out ... Peter

Stanley

09/05/2014

I recommend the Mr Curette (MCT) implant removal kit. It's the same principle as the other kit (actually all the new removal kits are based on the same reverse drill technique developed by Niznick in the 90's), but the MCT removal kit is simpler to use and is 1/3 of the price.

Stanley

09/05/2014

Forgot to mention that a great overview of the techniques to remove a failed implant was covered in a paper by Dr. Stuart Froum: "Techniques to Remove a Failed Integrated Implant", Compendium September 2011, Volume 32, No. 7, Pages 22-30

Yaron Miller

09/05/2014

Where would I find these kits?

Stanley

09/10/2014

You can buy both the fixture removal and the fractured screw removal kits as one complete kit at DDSGadget.com.

Parsa T. Zadeh, DDS

09/05/2014

That implant looks too shallow to me. If it's not integrated yet, I'd advice replacing it.

Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI

09/06/2014

You could restore the implant but it would be best to remove and drill a little deeper. There is ample vertical bone. The threads may irritate the gingival . One could prep back the threads and place an abutment . Restore with a cemented crown that has a finish line on the prepped threads.

CRS

09/07/2014

Absolutely agree with these great posts very very informative! Fortunately you are in the "golden time" (I made up the term) to remove 6 weeks is sort of a rule if thumb for the start of osteo integration. By replacing more in the middle you can prevent a cantilever. Good Luck!

Gregori Kurtzman, DDS, MA

09/09/2014

The implant is not placed deep enough and will create a problem developing any emergence profile add to this the implant design calls for a placement level with the crest or slightly above it this will lead to a long term problem. Best to remove and place an implant at the proper depth.

Alejandro Berg

09/09/2014

The real question is why in the world you would even try to restore it? Loose the fixture (I use the Neobiotech) place a new one and restore when its suitable to. Cheers Alex

mark madden ficoi dds

09/09/2014

depends on the esthetics,yes it could be restored

Elliot Silber DDS

09/09/2014

If it is integrated I would restore it but I would make sure the patient is advised and acknowledged in writing that this does not have the best prognosis. If it fails you can replace it then. I would also try to smooth out the threads above the bone.

Baker Vinci

09/09/2014

This reeks of insecurity. This guy shouldn't be placing implants if he is scared. I agree . Take it out and place an appropriate fixture, unless it is integrated. If you aren't getting scans on these cases, you and your patient are going to get burned. Bv

KPM

09/10/2014

Baker Vinci, will you ever cease making judgements on other doctors' qualifications based on what are obviously not ideal cases presented here? No one is publishing their best case in a journal to get their butt kissed. On the contrary, guys are "baring their souls" and asking for help with these cases. Let us please focus on providing advice on treatment to move forward rather than give in to whatever urge we may have to belittle a fellow doc?

DrSSG

09/16/2014

Well said sir! Back on point....absolutely ...remove the darn thing!

Ajay

09/09/2014

It is restorable. However, if you wish to remove the implant, this is the best time to do it. You should be able to just unscrew it. It looks like the implant was placed into the mesial root space. Would have been better to graft and place after a few months. No wonder it is placed shallow. Weigh the pros and cons and explain to the patient before going in.

cory c

09/09/2014

what's the crown to root ratio? it looks like those teeth are short, stubby crowns....if you grind the exposed threads and drop the margin on to the implant body and leave it in lite occlusion, it should work.....provided there's enough vert. height for the abutment. what's opposing it...a full plate or a porcelain bridge or a single tooth?

Bill

09/10/2014

Is the implant in occlusion? They may already think it is the permanent thing.

Dr. Samir Nayyar

09/10/2014

Hello I think that restoring it as it is will further lead to crestal bone loss. So it should be replaced with a new implant with proper placement level. Thanks and have a nice day.....

Tuss

09/10/2014

If it was placed around 6 weeks ago then it should be fairly easy to remove, just reverse it out, I would not jump to buying a removal kit without first trying to simply back it out, if it is an internal hex then its probably a Nobel clone so if you have a nobel or 3i implant inertion tool try that and apply counter clockwise pressure by gripping it with artery forceps.

Dr Bob

09/10/2014

If the dentist who placed the implant is a local doctor I suggest that you involve that dentist in this process. At the least determine why this patient is requesting that you do the restoration instead of the doctor who placed the implant. Perhaps the surgeon will remove and replace this implant without additional cost to the patient. Removal and replacement in an ideal position will result in a better looking restoration. This implant is restorable, it will not be an ideal restoration but it will work.

Yaron Miller

09/10/2014

Thanks for all the comments. I have elected to remove the implant and will probably buy the removal kit even though I have never had to remove an implant of my own before. The reason this patient came to me to do the restoration is that he was told that he needed to remove his children from the reception area as they had a policy of "no children" in that office. It never ceases to amaze me how some offices try so hard to alienate patients and then stand around scratching their heads when they have large holes in their schedules.

alan jeroff

10/14/2014

You don't have to buy it. I'll loan you mine. Alan

Richard Hughes DDS, FAAIP

09/11/2014

A scan is not required for this case. Simple PAs or Pano is sufficient for diagnosis and treatment. This could of been taken care of at the time of surgery. One can take simple yet fairly accurate measurements with 5mm ball bearings and a PA. The use of drill stoppers will give one depth control.

peter Fairbairn

09/11/2014

Yaron ...... regardless what has been stated research shows that it will be integrated , but these kits make for very easy removal I suspect you will need 100- 150 NcM reverse torque to get this out . I had one removal where the bone was down to the last 2 threads through PI loss and it required 400 Ncm ......... possibly due to the re-moddellling and stress forces leading to a denser surrounding bone . Regards Peter

Stanley

09/11/2014

400 Ncm? No pain for the patient? Some of these kits don't recommend you go over 200 Ncm, to play it safe. Personally, I think if you see you need need to go significantly over 200 Ncm, it is best to use the combination technique, as described by Dr. Stuart Froum in “Techniques to Remove a Failed Integrated Implant”, Compendium September 2011, Volume 32, No. 7, Pages 22-30

Yaron Miller

09/11/2014

Thanks Peter I ordered the kit yesterday and will follow your advice. I will post a follow up PA. Would you consider placing an implant in a better position at the time of implant removal or better to graft and place after healing. I'm concerned that if I try to place the implant the drill will track into the osteotomy site and I will have a poorly positioned implant.

CRS

09/11/2014

Dear Yaron good plan I think over time it will be the wise move much easier to fix now. Good preparation having the kit ready if needed. In the long run this is just a small hiccup in the life of a dental implant. I trust Peter's advice very sound . Good luck good judgement.

Peter Fairbairn

09/12/2014

Hi Yaron , Again as always depends what you are comfortable with , my standard protocol for lower first moral IMplants , is to split the roots remove , leave 3 weeks for soft tissue closure then place the Implant into the inter radicular bone and graft both root sockets adjacent with a fully bio-absorbable synthetic material........ but after hundreds it gets easier ( Yes CRS like Golf ! or maybe not ) so the key to placing at removal if you are comfortable with more difficult placement. Maybe best to leave to heal or even graft the site . Yes you could restore but there will be issues later Good luck you will be great . Peter

E Mellati

09/16/2014

I do agree with removal, letting heal and replacing deeper and in the centre of the space. However, one important thing to find out before proceeding is why the implant has been placed shallow in first attempt? One reason for such a placement could be that patient was feeling pain during implant placement despite receiving ample anaesthtics as block or even into the ossteotomy. This can be due to accessory branches of IAN or mental nerve present in the way. If that's the case, CT scan is recommended to carefully trace the nerve and be aware of it as you may need to have a shorter implant handy if you end up with the same problem during surgery.

DrSSG

09/16/2014

Im not sure you need a scan to look of accessory branches of IDN in this case? There is plenty of bone beyond the apex of this implant. If indeed you encountered the problem you refer to then block the IDN and measure carefully rather than just the usual infiltration.

E Mellati

09/17/2014

It can be misleading to judge on any potential accessory canals based on a peri-apical x-ray. So seeing plenty of bone apical to implant does not necessarily mean you don't have accessory canals. If you have such nerve branches in the way sometimes no anaesthetic can work enough as you're basically crushing the nerve with your drill or implant and most patient still find it very unpleasant. The point I was trying to make was to find out why it has gone wrong in first place to avoid being trapped in the same situation again. Especially when you're fixing someone else's bad work.

Anton Andrews

09/21/2014

To remove I can suggest to warm the implant to 50 degrees Celsius and remove it in two-three days without any kit and extreme torque.

Ken

09/23/2014

Warm to 50 degrees (assuming Celsius) .... Can I ask How? Cheers

Yaron Miller

09/21/2014

Follow up to previous post. Used implant removal kit to torque out implant. Worked like a dream, I hardly had to use any force and it came out. Area grafted with irradiated cortico- cancellous bone chips. I will follow up with an image when I place the new implant in 4 months. Thanks again for all the comments and helpful advice.

Konstantinos Kordatzis

11/13/2014

Give your patient all the information on the compromise that has to be made in prognosis and esthetics and let HIM give the answer .

Dr. Paul A Newitt

02/17/2015

Looks like the implant was possibly placed immediately after extraction and as pointed out into the medial root of the 46. It also appears in the film that there is adequate room to go deeper vertically, based on the zone of safety rule. measured from the 47 to the 45. From a prosthetic point of view you are now dealing with a less than adequate platform to begin with. The implant is angled such that you are going to end up with a cantilever effect and you may see bone loos associated with that on the distal of the implant with time. one of the things we can't see in this film is how much vertical you have for restorative. As it appears, the implant is not seated to the crest and seems to be above the crest by several millimetres. This may compromise your restorative options. I think if this was in my mouth i would want it removed and placed in a better position, with prosthetically driven criteria. What would you do if this was in your mouth knowing what you know about an implants?

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