Constructing 5 unit implant retained bridge on 2 implants: too long a span?

I did atraumatic extractions of #6, 9, 10 [maxillary right canine, left central incisor, left lateral incisor; 13, 21, 22; UR3 UL1, UL2] about 8 weeks ago. I took a CBCT scan which revealed a very wide nasopalatine canal. Is it possible to replace the missing teeth with a 5 unit fixed partial denture from #6 to 10 on 2 implants at #6 and #10 sites or should I install a third implant at #9 sit? The ridge morphology at #7, 8 is not suitable for implant placement because the ridge is knife edged and the patient is not very keen on block grafting. Any suggestions?

22 Comments on Constructing 5 unit implant retained bridge on 2 implants: too long a span?

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CRS
10/10/2013
Place an implant at 9.
Umer Daood
10/11/2013
Dear CRS, Thanks for your advice, I was wondering what the guidelines say if nasopalatine canal is invaded inadvertently during prep.
CRS
10/11/2013
You may get some bleeding but the nasopalatine canal can also be grafted routinely. If your worried do it guided to avoid the canal. It sound be fine.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/12/2013
You may consider blade form implants. You will have to ramp down a little to get them started. You may have to expand the ridge a little to use blades or root forms. Remember to cover the osteotomy with OsteoGen after expansion. It would be nice to see radiographs and photographs of the area and patient in centric etc.
Jihad Joseph AKL
10/15/2013
I will definitely place an additional fixture on site number 9 to secure my prosthesis from a bio mechanical viewpoint. I do understand the patient desire not to undergo bone grafting procedure on site 7 and 8 and therefore my secured and only solution in this case would be 3 fixtures on which is fitted a five unit bridge. The interesting questions here would be: Is an internal connection type of implant better option than a n external one? Is a cemented type of prosthesis better option than a screw type? What is the minimal dimensions of fixtures required both in length and width?
E Katch
10/15/2013
With the basic questions you need answered, is it in the patients best interest to have you place the implants?
Jim Sylvester, DMD
10/15/2013
I would ask myself a number of questions before deciding: 1) Is there a solid and stable posterior occlusion? 2) Is the anterior arch shape acutely ovoid or is it more gently rounded? 3) Are the proposed implants at least 11.5mm long? 4) Is the patient an "aggresive" chewer, bruxer, or generally use high masticatory forces? My personal concern would no be so much whether the bone would hold up, which it should with longer implants, but rather would the abutment screws withstand the constant torqueing because of the curved shape of the bridge. The patient could be warned of having to replace abutment screws from time to time.
MNB
10/15/2013
The long span over an arch form will provide for high cantilever forces over the central incisor areas. Not a good idea (see Misch et al). I would always place three implants in this instance. Ridge split or bone graft. Avoid the NP canal if possible as this reduces osseointegration in this part of the implant and can lead to failure. Mesial torquing on the implants is better than distal but unless incisal forces are very light I would go for the increased mechanics of three implants in this situation.
michaelwjohnson dds, ms
10/15/2013
Any dental reconstruction, whether tooth or implant borne needs to by engineered for longevity. With that in mind, you absolutely need a third implant. I disagree with a blade implant, they are not proven so don't expose your patient to something that you probably wouldn't put into your own mouth. I tell my patients they have two choices, a removable prosthesis (yes, conventional dentistry is still viable) or we do implants the right way; three implants, ideally with a bone graft to get an implant in #8 but otherwise #9. I'm not sure why anyone would recommend a blade implant since they haven't really been used for many years. Make sure your treatment is based on sound mechanical and biological principles. Don't have a long span. Make sure you use proven implant systems. Remember, do only to your patients what you would do on your family member. Your patients trust you so when in doubt, overengineer your implant treatment or go to conventional removable prosthodontics and don't do implants at all.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/16/2013
Dr Johnson, For your information blade implants have been reclassified to the same status as root forms by the FDA. I have blade cases in uncomplicated function for over 18 years. I will say that they are not for every doctor. The doctor needs new skills and has to understand the concepts of immediate and progressive loading. I placed 10 blades last week on four patients. I do agree to over engineer the case. Removable is an option.
michaelwjohnson dds, ms
10/16/2013
Yes, you're right, I have heard blades have been reclassified. Do you know of any research that shows long term results? I'm still not convinced they are as successful as root forms. I'm still remembering the 50% success rates of the old ramus frames, subs and blades before root form implants came to market. Are these new blades two piece? what research was presented to the FDA to reclassify them? If you have blades in function for over 18 years, how many failed over the same time? I have restored staple implants, subperiosteal implants and ramus frames which have been successful but they're the happy 50% not the unhappy 50% As you can tell, I've been at the implant game a long time and the older I get the more failures I see so I get more and more conservative. Please let the readers know your success rate and I'd love to see the info. that shows long term success. Thanks for your input! M
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/16/2013
My success rate is 97%. I am very dogmatic about how to place and restore. If one uses two stage blades or perform immediate stability but out of function they will osseointegrate. The concept of fibrousserous integration should not be followed. My failures were the early ones. I was fortunate to be trained by Drs Linkow and Roberts. I learned what works and does not work. I testified before the FDA this last July. The FDA brought foreword the case. I just help support the issue. The issue with subs is occlusion and tension free closure. Subs are a bit more complex but do work. It's not so much that the blades and subs are failure prone, it is that they require more skill and more attention to detail from the doctor. Granted root forms are easy to place but there are issues with root forms.
michaelwjohnson dds, ms
10/17/2013
As you are aware, fibro osseous integration was a term coined by Dr. Weiss and Linkow to promote and legitimize the blade implant. It had absolutely no research behind it and was a description of the non union of implant to bone when trying to compete with recently introduced root form implants that "osseointegrated" back in the early 80's. Therefore, the concept of fibroosseous integration should be dead. The challenge with any non root form implant is exactly as you stated; highly technique sensitive. You may be able to get 97% success rate since you've been doing them for a lot of years. The readers of these blogs generally are not as experienced and therefore should be extremely wary of trying out a non traditional implant system that requires a high degree of skill to successfully place. I'd love to see any research on the technique and long term success rate of non root form implants other than antecdotal case studies or "it works in my hands" type of reports. For the casual implant placer/restorer (which, realistically is the majority of general dentists) I don't think trying out a blade implant or any other highly technique sensitive implant system is a good idea. Stick with research based implant systems. I am a board certified prosthodontist and probably a little more conservative than others since I am a referral based practice and can't afford to try out implant systems on my referring dentists patients. Congratulations, however, on you success rate!
michaelwjohnson dds, ms
10/17/2013
I just sent a reply to Dr. Hughes. You refused to post it. Is this website run by Dr. Hughes? My comments were not inflammatory or in any way demeaning. I simply asked for information regarding research on blades. Please respond as to why osseonews thought my post was inappropriate. There should be shared information between parties and not filtering by one side if they don't agree with the post. There should be dissemination of information bilaterally so that posters can be questioned as to the rationale behind their posts. Otherwise misinformation can too easily be spread.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/18/2013
Dr Johnson, You maw want to do an online search as per the FDA hearing of this last July. The FDA did literature searches for blade form implants. I was not familiar with the data from the FDA. In my practice, I have nice results. I was trained by Drs Linkow and Roberts. I think a lot of the failures of others resulted from several factors. Such as not fixating the blade ASAP resulting in fibro- osseousintegration, overloading, placing the blades to buccal and using poorly designed blades that do not transmit forces well and some were to flimsy. Taking advantage of new surface tech, current concepts of progressive loading and immediate loading, staying away from poorly compliant patients etc improves results. The 50% failure rates that you refer to are doubtful. The success rates are much higher with subs, ramus frames and blades. You have to keep in mind that there are learning curves and these modalities require that the doc understands a lot more and has a different set of skills. There are problems with root forms. Just look at some of the post on this blog! If there were not any problems there would not be any postings! How many times do abutments come lose? The ubiquitous implant out of alignment. The issues with bone grafting, periimplantitis etc. the list goes on. There was a post about a root form implant in a max cuspid site. This can be a tricky area with any type of implant. The poster had the honesty to post the problem with dehiscence at the apex. All this stuff works and yes there are some failures. These issues are situational. When you get down to it. We have to ask , just why did a patient lose their teeth? And what now gave them this come to Jesus moment? I'm not being flip with you. All these modalities work under the right conditions. They fail for common reasons.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/18/2013
When it comes to the treatment of the atrophic posterior mandible, the use of certain blades (used correctly) go along way to uncomplicate and reduce the cost of treatment. The ramus blade from Pacific Implants, Inc. are fantastic for the Mandibular distal extension. The preanfled STR and hockey stick design implants are great for the maxilla. These two designs for the post maxilla can reduce the need for sinus lifts by 90%. There is up to a 20% failure rate with root forms in the grafted sinus. These implants are not placed into grafted bone!
CRS
10/18/2013
Dear Dr Hughes, your comment makes sense dense atrophic basal bone without much marrow would be an indication for a blade or sub? I also think that exact prosthetic restoration, which must be your strength, is key in any implant case. I always find case selection is important.I think that what works in one's hands is best, you can't argue with a 97% success rate!
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/18/2013
CRS, I also perform my surgeries. I live with what I place. I have taken the time to educate and train. I take implant dentistry very serious. The patients trust us to do the best for them. I even place implants in dentist (implant dentist), physicians and lawyers.
michaelwjohnson dds, ms
10/18/2013
Thank you for your more in depth info. on blades. I agree there's situations that are difficult with conventional root forms so alternative implant systems may be a solution to bone grafting. I'll look into the companies you mentioned. I will also do a lit. search to see what is out there. I don't have a 20% failure rate in grafted sinuses so, like your blade success, success rates in more complicated implant surgical situations are extremely dependent on the skill and experience of the surgeon.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/18/2013
Dr Johnson, I stand corrected. I do refer the readers to: Misch CE, Contemporary Implant Dentistry, ed3, p 969 and to Jensen OT, the Sinus Bone Graft p 119. To successfully use the blades I mentioned, one has to understand osteocompression and bone expansion. We are having a good discussion.
Baker Vinci
10/22/2013
FDA approval simply means they are safe to put in the alveolar bone. It says nothing about efficacy. I personally need more information to help out in this case. Bv
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
10/30/2013
Dr Johnson, You are correct, fibroosseous integration is not the interface of choice. An osseointegration is essential for all Endosseous implants ( blades, root forms, disc, 3D). Sorry that I did not answer this sooner!

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